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; bold for things that seem to be missing a space, italics for phrases --[[User:Kasumi|Kasumi]] 17:59, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 
; bold for things that seem to be missing a space, italics for phrases --[[User:Kasumi|Kasumi]] 17:59, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
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::I've taken the liberty of eliminating all the bold, because I see all the spaces right where they ought to be. [[User:屳鍁韯褼襳先苮馦枮忺韱奾廯暹纎嘕鱻仚祅蹮|Xian]] 16:46, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
  
  
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''machine'' corrosive sublimate ubiquitously appendices gilead quick-freeze chiromancer aquarellist quarterdeck
 
''machine'' corrosive sublimate ubiquitously appendices gilead quick-freeze chiromancer aquarellist quarterdeck
 
quaintly frontogenesis apprehensibly revamp lucrativeness tranquilize discount uriniferous tubule tawpie ''skin''
 
quaintly frontogenesis apprehensibly revamp lucrativeness tranquilize discount uriniferous tubule tawpie ''skin''
''grafting'' antigenicity drugged jerusalem thorn ''bas '''mitzvah''confidingness''' worcester porcelain overcautious liquidize
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''grafting'' antigenicity drugged jerusalem thorn ''bas mitzvah'' confidingness worcester porcelain overcautious liquidize
 
falcon gentle sympathectomy laudable ''reach me'' down ascendible newsworthy disenchanter autotrophically water
 
falcon gentle sympathectomy laudable ''reach me'' down ascendible newsworthy disenchanter autotrophically water
smoke jumper oxyuriasis ballistically equilibrate '''zionismdeleterious''' chronogrammatic ''bermuda shorts''
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smoke jumper oxyuriasis ballistically equilibrate zionism deleterious chronogrammatic ''bermuda shorts''
 
interdependency harpsichord ''je ne sais quoi'' aficionado endoplasmic accolade fashionable implemental
 
interdependency harpsichord ''je ne sais quoi'' aficionado endoplasmic accolade fashionable implemental
 
''deuterium oxide'' ashamedly examinable dendrological ''bastille day'' pasqueflower mutchkin jokingly diploblastic
 
''deuterium oxide'' ashamedly examinable dendrological ''bastille day'' pasqueflower mutchkin jokingly diploblastic
 
dhu’l-hijja ''bermuda grass'' anthropometrically ''pont l’eveque'' ''ski jump'' witenagemot unquestionably articulative
 
dhu’l-hijja ''bermuda grass'' anthropometrically ''pont l’eveque'' ''ski jump'' witenagemot unquestionably articulative
''polyconic projection'' ''half step'' secularization archduke '''pitch''mots''' justes'' conservational continually dislikable
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''polyconic projection'' ''half step'' secularization archduke pitch ''mots justes'' conservational continually dislikable
 
decarboxylation expressway ''citric acid'' communique almsgiver azimuthal dermatome meerschaum dependence
 
decarboxylation expressway ''citric acid'' communique almsgiver azimuthal dermatome meerschaum dependence
 
diphthongization banishment fashionmonger ''juvenile delinquency'' alaska time pulverize geocentrically smock
 
diphthongization banishment fashionmonger ''juvenile delinquency'' alaska time pulverize geocentrically smock
 
frock ''exclusive of'' burdensomeness rattlesnake plantain amorphously bachelors quahaug antiproton whoopla
 
frock ''exclusive of'' burdensomeness rattlesnake plantain amorphously bachelors quahaug antiproton whoopla
 
crookedness ''heir presumptive'' exoskeleton digital bounderish chemiluminescent icosahedra grumpiness quaker
 
crookedness ''heir presumptive'' exoskeleton digital bounderish chemiluminescent icosahedra grumpiness quaker
ladies gravelly isoalloxazine assassinate ''letters '''ofmarque''''' quinquefoliolate quaternary ''ammonium compound''
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ladies gravelly isoalloxazine assassinate ''letters of marque'' quinquefoliolate quaternary ''ammonium compound''
declinable cross question magnetic equator ''cerebral'' '''''palsy''heavy''' smokejack qualmishly gingerbread devilishly
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declinable cross question magnetic equator ''cerebral palsy'' heavy smokejack qualmishly gingerbread devilishly
 
clinker-built accountantship cacomistle well-wisher darlingly yellowbird ''blue devils'' ''calf’s-foot jelly'' afterlife
 
clinker-built accountantship cacomistle well-wisher darlingly yellowbird ''blue devils'' ''calf’s-foot jelly'' afterlife
 
bounteousness variorumbuhl ''bituminous coal'' circumnavigate demisemiquaver leviratic internationalize ''wheatstone
 
bounteousness variorumbuhl ''bituminous coal'' circumnavigate demisemiquaver leviratic internationalize ''wheatstone
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''raspberry'' jumping-off ''placeweaver’s knot'' johnson grass ''group dynamics'' actinomycetous catalogue raisonne ''royal''
 
''raspberry'' jumping-off ''placeweaver’s knot'' johnson grass ''group dynamics'' actinomycetous catalogue raisonne ''royal''
 
''jelly'' sniffishly pickaxe borough english ''liver fluke'' junoesque achromatic lank clostridia busybody depravement
 
''jelly'' sniffishly pickaxe borough english ''liver fluke'' junoesque achromatic lank clostridia busybody depravement
waxwing john bullishness dollar mark ''dust jacket'' bishop ''flying jib'' adjudicatory vituperation allergen '''appetent'''
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waxwing john bullishness dollar mark ''dust jacket'' bishop ''flying jib'' adjudicatory vituperation allergen appetent
 
''queen’s birthday'' taxis punishable woodworking jack-in-the-pulpits beautification fideistic conterminous
 
''queen’s birthday'' taxis punishable woodworking jack-in-the-pulpits beautification fideistic conterminous
alphanumeric '''expressmanwarehouse''' coquettishness tranquilest lime-juicer inextinguishable zwinglianist ''par''
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alphanumeric expressman warehouse coquettishness tranquilest lime-juicer inextinguishable zwinglianist ''par''
 
''excellence'' adaptable hydrographically hawaiian guitar ''scotland yard'' cantilever vapidly ''out of work'' altarpiece
 
''excellence'' adaptable hydrographically hawaiian guitar ''scotland yard'' cantilever vapidly ''out of work'' altarpiece
jarring '''carpetbaggerymastoiditis''' chromonemic adjutants general bailable diamondiferous decurved ''nux vomica''
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jarring carpetbaggery mastoiditis chromonemic adjutants general bailable diamondiferous decurved ''nux vomica''
 
''terminus ad quem'' ''disk wheel'' ''stevedore knot'' distrustfulness brassiness pandect ''spanish influenza''
 
''terminus ad quem'' ''disk wheel'' ''stevedore knot'' distrustfulness brassiness pandect ''spanish influenza''
 
bloodthirstily ''apartment building'' ''four horsemen''
 
bloodthirstily ''apartment building'' ''four horsemen''

Revision as of 12:46, 20 November 2011

I'm working up a spreadsheet with the color and font data. I have chosen color and font names primarily for distinct first letters - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArV3zp4PCR4BdDRld3Nid2RVQklJcDI2WU9oMUY4Zmc --Kasumi 01:11, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

The 'u' in 'bimolecular' is Lines, not Handwriting. The 'k' in 'stock exchange' is Running. Your spreadsheet stops at 'jury' but obviously you've done more than that. Xian 17:32, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Nope, I just read through the rest character by character looking at the Bird Font ones. --Kasumi 18:14, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Contents

Bird Font

  • OK, so a quick look at your sheet so far indicates that the bird font gives 4 letters in order: b,o,t,h. Perhaps looking further at just bird font might be useful to see if that's a coincidence or actual info. I don't see any similar pattern in the other fonts so far. -Derrick

That works. Here's the text from the bird font [] indicate my best guess; I'm not the most detail oriented person.

both house zhen and house sung have letters written by house members and others which are [m]ore [n]ormally written by scribes however the[sr]e are a[l]so som[e] letters [f]rom house zhen which seem to be written in very good forgeries [o]f the original handwriting from house zhen

  • Heh, nice. Can you get any indication of whether/how much info is encoded? Next might be to try looking at the same thing, but with different colors.-Derrick
I got that just by writing down each character that was in the bird font; color didn't seem to matter. Another time I might continue with the spreadsheet.

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bold for things that seem to be missing a space, italics for phrases --Kasumi 17
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I've taken the liberty of eliminating all the bold, because I see all the spaces right where they ought to be. Xian 16:46, 20 November 2011 (UTC)


bimolecular stock exchange lumberjack self fruitful intoxicate hydrosulfide fourth of july dizygotic special jury senseful wipe up citizenly refurbish knuckle joint butanol accusingly administrative autoantibody sanding machine corrosive sublimate ubiquitously appendices gilead quick-freeze chiromancer aquarellist quarterdeck quaintly frontogenesis apprehensibly revamp lucrativeness tranquilize discount uriniferous tubule tawpie skin grafting antigenicity drugged jerusalem thorn bas mitzvah confidingness worcester porcelain overcautious liquidize falcon gentle sympathectomy laudable reach me down ascendible newsworthy disenchanter autotrophically water smoke jumper oxyuriasis ballistically equilibrate zionism deleterious chronogrammatic bermuda shorts interdependency harpsichord je ne sais quoi aficionado endoplasmic accolade fashionable implemental deuterium oxide ashamedly examinable dendrological bastille day pasqueflower mutchkin jokingly diploblastic dhu’l-hijja bermuda grass anthropometrically pont l’eveque ski jump witenagemot unquestionably articulative polyconic projection half step secularization archduke pitch mots justes conservational continually dislikable decarboxylation expressway citric acid communique almsgiver azimuthal dermatome meerschaum dependence diphthongization banishment fashionmonger juvenile delinquency alaska time pulverize geocentrically smock frock exclusive of burdensomeness rattlesnake plantain amorphously bachelors quahaug antiproton whoopla crookedness heir presumptive exoskeleton digital bounderish chemiluminescent icosahedra grumpiness quaker ladies gravelly isoalloxazine assassinate letters of marque quinquefoliolate quaternary ammonium compound declinable cross question magnetic equator cerebral palsy heavy smokejack qualmishly gingerbread devilishly clinker-built accountantship cacomistle well-wisher darlingly yellowbird blue devils calf’s-foot jelly afterlife bounteousness variorumbuhl bituminous coal circumnavigate demisemiquaver leviratic internationalize wheatstone bridge abashment caravansary crewelwork anthropomorphism blood improvisatory acetylsalicylate heartburning admissibility self-registering carminative atom bomb deviation colloquiums festering window box black raspberry jumping-off placeweaver’s knot johnson grass group dynamics actinomycetous catalogue raisonne royal jelly sniffishly pickaxe borough english liver fluke junoesque achromatic lank clostridia busybody depravement waxwing john bullishness dollar mark dust jacket bishop flying jib adjudicatory vituperation allergen appetent queen’s birthday taxis punishable woodworking jack-in-the-pulpits beautification fideistic conterminous alphanumeric expressman warehouse coquettishness tranquilest lime-juicer inextinguishable zwinglianist par excellence adaptable hydrographically hawaiian guitar scotland yard cantilever vapidly out of work altarpiece jarring carpetbaggery mastoiditis chromonemic adjutants general bailable diamondiferous decurved nux vomica terminus ad quem disk wheel stevedore knot distrustfulness brassiness pandect spanish influenza bloodthirstily apartment building four horsemen



My initial thought upon seeing the puzzle is to separate out the letters of each particular typeface/color to see if they spell anything when concatenated. However, the page makes my eyes hurt, so I leave the actual trying of it to someone else. -Shen-Ji


I find the page hurts less if I look at it magnified many times (600% or more). Colors (interestingly there seems to be only one brown?): yellow, dark yellow; orange, red-orange; red, brick red; brown; blue-green, gray-green; Fonts: ugh, that would be much easier if knew the names of fonts. I can sort of figure out which letters go with which... --Kasumi 18:13, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Letter frequency; word frequency

I note that there are an unusual number of each of {j, q, x, z}. In ordinary English text they're the four rarest letters, and here they're still four of the five rarest letters, but they appear at 5-10 times the frequency they would in normal text; for example, there are 30 'q's in less than 3000 letters, over 1%; in normal text 'q' is less than 0.1% of the letters. (There's also unusually few 't's, but I'm not as confident that that's anything.)

The word 'bermuda' appears twice, once in 'bermuda grass' and once in 'bermuda shorts'. The word 'grass' appears twice, once in 'bermuda grass' and once in 'johnson grass'. The word 'knot' appears twice, once in 'weaver's knot' (adjacent to 'johnson grass') and once in 'stevedore knot'. The word 'jelly' appears twice, once in 'calf's-foot jelly' and once in 'royal jelly'. Xian 04:18, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

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