Talk:Changing the Wall

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It is unclear to me what the timeframe for the elements of this ritual would be. Can one begin it, and start doing parts, and complete them when they are done... or do you need to do them all in rapid succession? --Ringrose 00:40, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Each individual step should be done reasonably atomically rather than cumulatively, but they need not be done in rapid succession. --Boojum 19:39, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

So as I read it, Wei Han gets a pair of rocks and concentrates on them. Then there are sixteen actions, each of which need 11 (probably 12 by the time we do this, sorry) successes.

While I understand how these invite the Earth of the Wall and transformation, how do they invite or invoke the spirits of winter since the winter spirits do none of the sixteen actions? --Ringrose 00:47, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

This is magic ritualese, which you aren't as familiar with, having not tried to design a ritual yourself. If you do "Water / Fire / Wood / Metal" that leaves an Earth-shaped hole, and you get Earth in the final result. You invoke all but the missing ones; with that, you invite the missing ones. --Boojum 19:39, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

This is a lot of rolls. What happens if one of them is failed? Is there a way to recover? --Ringrose 00:47, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

There are no terrible consequences to failing a roll. You just need to succeed at it eventually for it to count. --Boojum 19:39, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

It seems like it would be appropriate to complete some ritual steps during combat. A rock charged with 12 successes of Shen-Ji blowing up Northern invaders should be better for our purposes than a rock charged with 12 successes of Shen-Ji setting an elephant on fire, even if the former occurs in a less controlled environment. --HeidiB 14:03, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I was inferring from context that everything had to be done *to* Wei Han, so I was assuming that if you wanted a Phoenix doing 10 successes of fire damage it had to be done to Wei Han. That's a big pile-o-damage. I could be wrong, which would be healtier for Wei Han. Elizabeth 20:26, 13 October 2011 (UTC)