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Shen-Ji wanted to hold on to the silver bar segments for use in future rituals. My question is, how inherently spiffy are they as ritual components? While I don't think we have an immediate need for the money, some future run may be in the position where they have to decide while Shen-Ji is asleep in his tent, so we should have some sense of how important they are. If they are about as useful as other components that could be purchased for similar amounts of money, I don't think that we should worry too much about them in particular. I could be missing a use case...if it's the case that we can improvise rituals in run-time, and having a spiffy focus item makes that easier, then I can see holding on to them for that. But even in that case, my impression is that a segmented silver bar would still have to be aesthetically appropriate. Anyway, I'd like to place the segmented silver bar on a spectrum from "uniquely useful" to "generically handy". (Note that if we end up liquidating them later when we're desperate for the money, we'll probably get less than we would if we shop them around at a time of our choosing.) Fearless 11:03, 28 July 2009 (EDT)

My question is, how inherently spiffy are they as ritual components? Someone should make us an Int roll with Magic Ritual skill --Boojum 11:49, 28 July 2009 (EDT)
Since no one else seems to have done this (adding Yang):
dice 6 7 1
Results are: 8 8 6 4 3 2
Target: 7. Natural successes: 2.
Target: 7. Successes: 3.
Charles 14:31, 7 August 2009 (EDT)
They're a better balance between Metal and Magpie than plain silver is, or a silver li is, because they have interesting-metal-functionality in addition to value. That would be true of many other functional objects made of silver as well.
If you were constructing a ritual that had a need for a Southern object, or something that had been used in a Weird Ritual, then this might work okay for that.
But other than that, it's not particularly magically relevant. --Boojum 18:00, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

If someone had pointed this out to me, I would have rolled, but I didn't know about this. My Int roll with Magical Ritual gives 5 successes. Dunno if this gives us more info than above. -Derrick/Shen-Ji

You think Takanata's correct; you also wonder if their having been used in a weird southern ritual might have a subtle skewing effect on a "normal" ritual. --Boojum 21:01, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

Shen-Ji, Artomancer

He also examines the markings on the ground - to his best guess, they're something like "art, simulating Earth sorcery", but he's not quite sure how it works.

The new Shen-Ji probably has a much better chance of understanding this.